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rachac
12-15-2006, 09:22 AM
An open letter to our fans:
Guns N? Roses regrets to announce that the following concert tour dates have been cancelled:
January 10th Sacramento
January 11th Bakersfield
January 13th Reno
January 16th San Diego

Due to the schedule of these particular shows valuable time needed by the band and record company for the proper setup and release of the album Chinese Democracy would be lost. Rather than delay the album yet again all involved have decided to remove these shows from GNR?s schedule. We sincerely hope our fans understand and we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused anyone. Tickets may be refunded at local point of purchase.

To say the making of this album has been an unbearably long and incomprehensible journey would be an understatement. Overcoming the endless and seemingly insanity of the obstacles faced by all involved, not withstanding the emotional challenges endured by everyone: the fans, the band, our road crew and business team has at many times seemed for all like a bad dream where one wakes up only to find they are still in the nightmare and unfortunately this time it has been played out for over a decade in real life.

The true ongoing behind-the-scenes triumphs and casualties are much more complicated than any negative speculation that media or otherwise has managed to hit upon. For much of the time some form or another of legalities have been taking place that really the best way to deal with publicly was to keep our mouths shut in an attempt to ensure the best outcome and especially one that wouldn?t jeopardize the band or the album. One can easily point to how others have done things or how they themselves feel that they would were they in the same situations but without full knowledge of the various dynamics and circumstances involved, again these types of comments or commentary are uninformed, outside, generally useless and often hindering speculation.

When I agreed to do our recent North American tour I agreed with the understanding that I and my manager Merck Mercuriadis were in full agreement as to our strategy, touring plans and most importantly that any and all things needed to release the album at the latest by Dec. 26th were to be in place. Unfortunately this turned out not to be the case and not only do I regret to say that again the album will not be released by the end of the year but that though many things went extremely well and were very exciting there were in our opinion unnecessary and avoidable complications on our tour having to do with the tour routing, scheduling and album and video plans that played hell on all involved especially our crew. This was compounded by an overall sense of a lack of respect by management for the band and crew and each individual?s particular expertise that has resulted unfortunately in the end of both Guns and my relationship in having a management or sense of band involvement with Merck Mercuriadis.

In regard to a release date for the album itself certain minor and by that I do mean minor things and or additions as well as contract negotiations need to be completed and barring any unforeseen complications these things have now been adequately scheduled. Both the band and I along with our record company feel that this record deserves the proper setup and promotion not the ?13 Tuesdays left? and ?it may just appear in your record store? approach offered by management. We believe this strategy may have been used in order for management to sell this latest tour to the various promoters. We feel that if this was so, this was obviously unfair to them. The stress of dealing with this situation has been considerable for everyone as well as to the band themselves as a whole but that this was more importantly in our opinion something utterly insane to do to our fans. Our apologies and please know we have been laboring over this with management for the entire North American tour.

It takes approximately 8 weeks for an album to hit the shelves once it has been turned in to the record company. For whatever reasons it appears it may have been mistakenly inferred by management that this could be condensed to three. That being said this is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee but we do wish to announce a tentative release date of March 6th. This is the first time we have done this publicly for this album. Any and all other dates have been made up by others for their own reasons. We would like to assure the fans that though tentative everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons you will also be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible. We thank you for your patience.

In the end it?s just an album and one that I, the band, our record company and all involved believe and feel is a true Guns N? Roses album. Ultimately the public will decide and regardless of the outcome our hearts, lives and our passion has been put into this project every step of the way. If for no other reason we feel those elements alone merit your consideration. We do hope you can hold on just a bit longer and if not we hope you would please feel free to take a break and we?ll be more than glad (if you so choose) to see you again later.

Once again, our sincere apologies and our deepest thanks, Guns N? Roses would also like to thank all the fans who attended the 70 concerts in 21 different countries for their support in 2006. All the best to each and every one of you over this holiday season, thank-you and God bless.

Sincerely,
Axl Rose

wendyandlisa
12-15-2006, 10:04 AM
poor crazy axl

everyone should do him a favor and not buy the piece of garbage so tommy can get back to playing with good bands and/or the original gnr will get back together and rock our socks off....
but with that said axl sucks....always and forever.

David
12-15-2006, 10:09 AM
973 words? That's one pretty long excuse for not having your homework done on time.

Bob L
12-15-2006, 10:12 AM
Axl's been working on this piece of crap for like fifteen years, but he has to cancel those concerts because this last three months the album is really going to come together.

rachac
12-15-2006, 11:01 AM
I'm not a GnR fan, but I just thought the article was too funny not to post. I wonder, though, how well those shows were selling before they got cancelled.

liveintown
12-15-2006, 11:30 AM
I thought that self-important bloated rock star jerks issuing lengthy diatribes died with the 90s? Who is Axl talking too?? What a joke.
-live

solace
12-15-2006, 12:47 PM
same day (tentatively) as the new Arcade Fire album, Neon Bible

:)

i know which i'll be buying on the first day...

wendyandlisa
12-15-2006, 01:56 PM
that's an easy one

G'N'F'N'R

solace
12-15-2006, 02:45 PM
i guess i'm one of the few who never really felt Axl WAS GNR... GNR to me was Axl, Izzy, Slash, & Duff (i preferred Adler to Sorum too). Without Slash's playing & Izzy's songwriting, my interest in "GNR" is pretty damn low.

wendyandlisa
12-15-2006, 02:50 PM
slash and izzy= GNR

not white spandex mcgee

solace
12-15-2006, 02:51 PM
slash and izzy= GNR

not white spandex mcgee
:rockout

Pat
12-18-2006, 08:27 PM
I am a fan of the "classic" lineup as well. Which, according to third hand info that is directly from Slash's mouth (this is too involved to get into here, the easiest--but somehow least direct--explanation being: my building manager's name is Michelle--now go look at the song list on "Appetite", and no I'm not kidding, it's really her.) will never, ever happen again no matter how much money is offered to him (or Axl for that matter, apparently) which is too bad because they really had something special, but Axl seemed to think HE had something special and could recreate the magic with just himself and session players and/or dudes wearing Michael Meyers masks and KFC buckets on their heads.

AVENPITCH
12-20-2006, 07:06 AM
I dunno... I hope it does come out, I'm curious to hear what 12 years and 13 million dollars will get ya:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/06/arts/music/06leed.html?ei=5090&en=a13c0fac87670850&ex=1267851600&partner=rssuserland&pagewanted=all

rachac
12-20-2006, 08:27 AM
And that was as of March 2005 -- a whole two years will have passed between the article and when the album is finally released (allegedly, allegedly).

I'd be curious to know how many CDs will need to be sold to break even. Even at costs of $15 million, depending on how much Axl is personally on the hook for vs. Geffen, it might be as "few" as 2-3 million -- something that should easily be accomplished given the fan base and the intrigue.

But anything short of Wyld Stallyns bringing peace and harmony throughout the universe will be a let down compared to the build-up of this album.

Pat
12-22-2006, 03:01 PM
haha Wyld Stalyns

"Put them in the iron maiden"

"Excellent!"

"Execute them!"

"Bogus..."

rachac
03-07-2007, 07:06 PM
God, I totally forgot that Chinese Democracy dropped yesterday! Too late to run to Best Buy tonight, but I'll have to get out there first thing in the morning.

So, who can tell me how good it is? Solace? Germ War? Avenpitch?

Anyone? :)

Staciaann
03-07-2007, 07:53 PM
God, I totally forgot that Chinese Democracy dropped yesterday! Too late to run to Best Buy tonight, but I'll have to get out there first thing in the morning.

So, who can tell me how good it is? Solace? Germ War? Avenpitch?

Anyone? :)

If you wait like a week, I'd bet you could get it for like $1 used. ;)

The Sheck
03-08-2007, 12:19 AM
It got pushed back again, indefinitely.

solace
03-08-2007, 12:43 AM
you don't say....

David
03-08-2007, 05:58 AM
This is on it's way to becoming the most actively un-waited for album in history.

rachac
03-08-2007, 07:23 AM
Heh heh heh -- it wasn't until yesterday that I starting thinking "Hey, wasn't something earth-shaking supposed to happen on March 6th?" I think everybody saw this coming.

The Sheck
03-11-2007, 01:41 PM
Heh heh heh -- it wasn't until yesterday that I starting thinking "Hey, wasn't something earth-shaking supposed to happen on March 6th?" I think everybody saw this coming.

Well, the Borat movie came out on DVD. :D

Pat
03-11-2007, 07:37 PM
In "Fargo Rock City" there is one part where Chuck Klosterman talks about betting a friend if "Chinese Democracy" would come out before his book did, that was four years ago.

Remind me again how long this album has been in the works, or at least on the radar as being such. Is it ten years? I seem to remember discussing it in college, but it may have just been with people I went to college with.

liveintown
03-11-2007, 10:42 PM
Chuck's 2006 April Fools Joke:
http://www.spin.com/reviews/magazine/2006/04/060323_gunsnroses/

solace
03-12-2007, 05:55 AM
In "Fargo Rock City" there is one part where Chuck Klosterman talks about betting a friend if "Chinese Democracy" would come out before his book did, that was four years ago.

Remind me again how long this album has been in the works, or at least on the radar as being such. Is it ten years? I seem to remember discussing it in college, but it may have just been with people I went to college with.

it's currently at 13 years and counting

Staciaann
03-12-2007, 03:51 PM
From TheSuperficial.com (which is one of my favorite sites of all time):

Ashley Olsen might be Axl Rose

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Ashley Olsen was spotted getting some coffee in Beverly Hills yesterday wearing 80's denim cutoffs and a Prada turban. And I know the Olsen sisters are supposed to be fashionable or whatever, but I've never ever in my life seen them wear anything that hasn't looked ridiculously stupid. Is that what being fashionable means? Maybe I should start tucking my shirts into my underwear and wearing giant novelty sunglasses. I'll be the prettiest girl in town!


hee hee hee...

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